[one-users] OpenNebula vs OpenStack

[Shi Jin]

Keith,

I cannot agree with you more.
There is NO virtual infrastructure manager more hackable than OpenNebula!

Shi

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Keith Hudgins <keith at cloudscaling.com>wrote:

> Nova (the part of OpenStack that compares with OpenNebula) is *very*
> immature at the moment. It's a brand-spanking new project only a few months
> old, and doesn't really do much at the moment. In the long run, it may
> compare favorably with OpenNebula, but it will be at least 6 months before
> Nova begins to catch up. I know a couple of people working on Nova, and
> they're VERY good developers, so I have no doubt it will be a very nice
> piece of software in the future. If you want to put it into production
> today... don't. It's pre-alpha and not even close to feature-complete. You
> can launch VMs from Nova, but not much more than that. There's currently not
> any solid multi-user support, for example. It's worth tinkering with, for
> sure, but not for production.
>
> OpenNebula is mature, proven, and works pretty well. It's not as slick as
> some of the commercial products available, but it's much more hackable
> (seriously - I've said it before and it's still true - there is NO virtual
> infrastructure manager more hackable than OpenNebula), and the community
> ecosystem is complex and useful. From the ecosystem you can install a
> graphical interface, alternate schedulers, and many install automation
> tools.
>
> If you want to look at more mature software to compare, Cloudstack (very
> slick, use their reference architecture until you understand how the pieces
> fall together), Eucalyptus (good luck! Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is still the
> only reliable, simple way to get this going), Ganeti (very interesting, DRBD
> backing store, not intended for large scale though) are good comparison
> examples to test. None of them work with the range of hypervisors or APIs
> that OpenNebula does, but they may scratch a particular itch you have.
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Christophe Hamerling - Petals Link <
> christophe.hamerling at petalslink.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ignacio,
>>
>> As an active open source developer and supporter I have no doubt about the
>> quality and maturity of OpenNebula.
>> I was just wondering if any user as also experience with OpenStack and can
>> say more about why they switched from OpenStack to OpenNebula (and I really
>> hope the switch is this one).
>> BTW, this will be probably a good point to list somewhere the OpenNebula
>> 'killer' features and why one should use OpenNebula instead of OpenStack.
>> It is something I wanted to ask last week at OW2 Conference but I think it
>> is quite complicated when both projects have representatives there... ;)
>>
>> Christophe
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignacio M. Llorente <
>> llorente at dacya.ucm.es> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Christophe,
>>>
>>> We prepared a post [1] with a description of our position as
>>> open-source project when OpenStack was announced in July. From a more
>>> technical point of view, OpenNebula is a mature technology (we started
>>> the development five years ago and did our first release almost three
>>> years ago) that is used to manage very large scale clouds by some of
>>> the world's leading telecom operators, hosting providers and compute
>>> centers of leading research institutions. In our web site [2] we
>>> provide details about the features for private, public and hybrid
>>> cloud management, integration and production environments. We invite
>>> you to compare these features with those provided by OpenStack and
>>> evaluate which technology fits your requirements.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://blog.opennebula.org/?p=683
>>> [2]
>>> http://www.opennebula.org/_media/documentation:opennebula_2.0_features_rev20101026.pdf
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Christophe Hamerling - Petals Link
>>> <christophe.hamerling at petalslink.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > I can find some comparisons between OpenNebula and Eucalyptus but
>>> nothing
>>> > between OpenNebula and OpenStack. Both looks quite close in term of
>>> feature
>>> > (from a light level view) but can someone give me details?
>>> > Thanks a lot,
>>> > Christophe
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Christophe Hamerling
>>> > R&D Engineer & Project Leader
>>> > Petals Link - SOA open-source company
>>> > OW2 PEtALS SOA Suite Comitter
>>> > Skype : christophe.hamerling
>>> > Jabber : chamerling at jabber.org
>>> > Blog : http://chamerling.org
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ignacio M. Llorente, Full Professor (Catedratico):
>>> http://dsa-research.org/llorente
>>> DSA Research Group:  web http://dsa-research.org and blog
>>> http://blog.dsa-research.org
>>> OpenNebula Open Source Toolkit for Cloud Computing:
>>> http://www.OpenNebula.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christophe Hamerling
>> R&D Engineer & Project Leader
>> Petals Link - SOA open-source company
>> OW2 PEtALS SOA Suite Comitter
>> Skype : christophe.hamerling
>> Jabber : chamerling at jabber.org
>> Blog : http://chamerling.org
>>
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Shi Jin, Ph.D.
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