Keith,<div><br></div><div>I cannot agree with you more.</div><div>There is NO virtual infrastructure manager more hackable than OpenNebula!</div><div><br></div><div>Shi</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Keith Hudgins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:keith@cloudscaling.com">keith@cloudscaling.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Nova (the part of OpenStack that compares with OpenNebula) is *very* immature at the moment. It's a brand-spanking new project only a few months old, and doesn't really do much at the moment. In the long run, it may compare favorably with OpenNebula, but it will be at least 6 months before Nova begins to catch up. I know a couple of people working on Nova, and they're VERY good developers, so I have no doubt it will be a very nice piece of software in the future. If you want to put it into production today... don't. It's pre-alpha and not even close to feature-complete. You can launch VMs from Nova, but not much more than that. There's currently not any solid multi-user support, for example. It's worth tinkering with, for sure, but not for production.<div>
<br></div><div>OpenNebula is mature, proven, and works pretty well. It's not as slick as some of the commercial products available, but it's much more hackable (seriously - I've said it before and it's still true - there is NO virtual infrastructure manager more hackable than OpenNebula), and the community ecosystem is complex and useful. From the ecosystem you can install a graphical interface, alternate schedulers, and many install automation tools.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you want to look at more mature software to compare, Cloudstack (very slick, use their reference architecture until you understand how the pieces fall together), Eucalyptus (good luck! Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is still the only reliable, simple way to get this going), Ganeti (very interesting, DRBD backing store, not intended for large scale though) are good comparison examples to test. None of them work with the range of hypervisors or APIs that OpenNebula does, but they may scratch a particular itch you have.<br>
<br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Christophe Hamerling - Petals Link <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christophe.hamerling@petalslink.com" target="_blank">christophe.hamerling@petalslink.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Ignacio,<div><br></div><div>As an active open source developer and supporter I have no doubt about the quality and maturity of OpenNebula.</div>
<div>I was just wondering if any user as also experience with OpenStack and can say more about why they switched from OpenStack to OpenNebula (and I really hope the switch is this one).</div>
<div>BTW, this will be probably a good point to list somewhere the OpenNebula 'killer' features and why one should use OpenNebula instead of OpenStack.</div><div>It is something I wanted to ask last week at OW2 Conference but I think it is quite complicated when both projects have representatives there... ;)</div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Christophe</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Ignacio M. Llorente <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:llorente@dacya.ucm.es" target="_blank">llorente@dacya.ucm.es</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Christophe,<br>
<br>
We prepared a post [1] with a description of our position as<br>
open-source project when OpenStack was announced in July. From a more<br>
technical point of view, OpenNebula is a mature technology (we started<br>
the development five years ago and did our first release almost three<br>
years ago) that is used to manage very large scale clouds by some of<br>
the world's leading telecom operators, hosting providers and compute<br>
centers of leading research institutions. In our web site [2] we<br>
provide details about the features for private, public and hybrid<br>
cloud management, integration and production environments. We invite<br>
you to compare these features with those provided by OpenStack and<br>
evaluate which technology fits your requirements.<br>
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Regards<br>
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[1] <a href="http://blog.opennebula.org/?p=683" target="_blank">http://blog.opennebula.org/?p=683</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://www.opennebula.org/_media/documentation:opennebula_2.0_features_rev20101026.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.opennebula.org/_media/documentation:opennebula_2.0_features_rev20101026.pdf</a><br>
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Christophe Hamerling - Petals Link<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
> I can find some comparisons between OpenNebula and Eucalyptus but nothing<br>
> between OpenNebula and OpenStack. Both looks quite close in term of feature<br>
> (from a light level view) but can someone give me details?<br>
> Thanks a lot,<br>
> Christophe<br>
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