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<div>On May 16, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Daniel Molina wrote:</div>
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On 14 May 2012 13:03, Owen Synge <<a href="mailto:owen.synge@desy.de">owen.synge@desy.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">What is a market place? Why does Open Nebular need one? Why should it be<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">As I under stand it a "Market place" is following Apples success a poor copy<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">of debian's "apt repository" has been re branded and emasculated. Unlike<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">"apt", and its rpm clone "yum" the feature to deploy a repository on any old<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Rather than having a layered architecture with a set of user interfaces,<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">apt, aptitude, kpackage and synaptic around "apt", market places typically<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">One of the sad things about computer concepts is that products promoting<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">lock in get seen my marketeers as a good idea.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">So why does Open Nebular need a market place, and not adopt a simpler "apt"<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I am bias, here is my "apt" replacement for a market place that will work<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">with open nebular and stratuslab, as I don’t believe in lock in.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Its like "apt" and "yum" and only requires a web server to host the images<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">and metadata, unlike what I have seen of "market place" servers.<br>
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Community users have requested several times for pre-configured images<br>
ready to run in OpenNebula environments, so we decided to provide<br>
these images in the following link [1].<br>
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Since this solution is a bit limited, we decided to develop a service<br>
where we can include metadata of these images and provide OpenNebula<br>
users the possibility of sharing pointers of their own images. Just to<br>
clarify, this service will not host the images but pointers to them<br>
and metadata.<br>
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Currently we are evaluating different technologies for this service<br>
and we will take into account the solution you provide [2]. Thanks for<br>
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Cheers<br>
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[1] <a href="http://www.opennebula.org/software:appliances">http://www.opennebula.org/software:appliances</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://github.com/hepix-virtualisation/">https://github.com/hepix-virtualisation/</a><br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 05/14/2012 12:17 PM, Daniel Molina wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">The OpenNebula Marketplace will provide OpenNebula users the<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 11 May 2012 16:22, Carlo Daffara<<a href="mailto:cdaffara@gmail.com">cdaffara@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">That's great! We would love to submit some of the images we use to<br>
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<div>It's great to see ongoing efforts and discussions related to developing an OpenNebula marketplace for base images. I think this will be an important component of the eco-system as it will allow users to access and deploy base images easily. I am not sure
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<div>Many system administrators and regular users would prefer to know how a particular base images was created before instantiating it their environment. It's also important to know the base image profile from security point of view. So it would be great if
marketplace allows and encourages users to register their installation scripts along with the base image. This will also help in developing best practices for creating base images and yield well configured base images eventually.</div>
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<div>We can get started with sharing of installation scripts even without a marketplace and then create base images in the marketplace once it is ready. I have posted my notes on how kickstart installation can be used to create CentOS base images for OpenNebula
- <a href="http://knowshantanu.github.com/systems/2012/05/07/Kickstarting-OpenNebula-VM-Images.html">http://knowshantanu.github.com/systems/2012/05/07/Kickstarting-OpenNebula-VM-Images.html</a> . I have posted notes on kickstart installation method as I am
familiar only with this method, however there are other options available like Cobbler and Ubuntu/Debian seed files.</div>
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<div>Again, thanks to OpenNebula team for getting started with this new marketplace component.</div>
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